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theangrypomeranian Ā· 2 months ago
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Moon Tobin and Louise Belcher would be best friends and I will not elaborate further
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tonyglowheart Ā· 8 years ago
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1, 5, 19, 22 for the salty fandom asks
hey, anon, thanks for playing! (ā€¦.I only realized now just what a can of worms I may be opening, but hashtag yolo, I go down, I go down in a blaze of salty glory I guess)
under a read-more because thisā€¦..got longā€¦ā€¦ā€¦why am I even so salty why canā€™t I Chill,,,,,, :ā€™)
[send me more numbers if you want to see more of me being a messy salty windbag lmao :ā€™)]
1. What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?
Honestly I donā€™t even consider this an OTP bc Iā€™m so ??? but likeā€¦.phl/int?? I just. Do not understand. And to this day. Still do not. And yet itā€™s sUCH a huge one in the fandom???? somehow??????
Honestly I kind of have an idea of some of the impetus but that is something I donā€™t even want to get into right now lmao.
5.Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?
oH BOY, hasĀ it 8) 8). e.g. I literally Cannot with st*cky bc of the shit some of the nastier ppl put us (st/ony/tony fans through) back in the day. Likeā€¦..I literally had to blacklist bc I cannot even look at them 8) and every time I wanted to find Steve meta it was all st*cky stuff somehow. Plus, there was a time when the prevailing characterization (or at least that I saw) was really REALLY likeā€¦ā€¦codependent and stuff? Like honestly I didnā€™t even hate/dislike any other ships at first, I even watched Kings just for Seb Stan?? Who I thought was great in it, heā€™s got a real way of angsting wordlessly thatā€™s really effective. And also benefited him as the Winter Soldier. But likeā€¦ā€¦I have him blacklisted now because I just 8) 8) when I see that/stucky stuff.Ā 
19. What is the one thing you hate most about your fandom?
the fact that canon is just so *massages temples* like all the time? Like honestly, on one hand I get the wholeĀ ā€œignore canon and enjoy it anywayā€ dealio, but on the other hand, I actually AM really resentful that I was trying to get into comics RIGHT as there was justā€¦so much shit going on? Like I think one big moment I remember was during AXIS, which isā€¦yikes. and then SIM, which we donā€™t talk about, which is more yikes? And then idk some other stuff, and incursions and prevailing grimdark culture (like it was allĀ ā€œhah, you thought superheroes would save you? Think again, NO ONE can save ANYONE!ā€ like. cā€™mon, guys. You still WANT to make money, right?), and then whatever the heck secret wars/battleworld was. And then CWII???? and then Neo-Nazis Everywhere now. So like. y i kes.
and I wasnā€™t even really around during the first CW, and Iā€™m already incredibly tired of it everywhere, including in MCU. Plus, I feel like Steve has been REALLY getting the short end of the stick with regards to everything. Heā€™s sort of been at the mercy of whoeverā€™s writing, and I kind of get the feeling ppl have just been sublimating their own vision of who the Captain America ideal should be (or subverting it for grimdark ~gritty~ ~realism~) and then extrapolating Steve from that, even though they COULD have done interesting stuff with juxtaposing those standards, Steveā€™s own moral standards, and maybe the conflict between him being a symbol for people but having his own views and stuff. I only just now in CW feel like I REALLY got a sense of who Steve is as a character, but unfortunately what coalesced is hardly flattering to the character :/
And likeā€¦ā€¦honestly thereā€™s a lot of stuff fandom-side, too. Off hand, I donā€™t think thereā€™s much I hate about the Stevetony fandom? but I guess in terms of who I think about for that, itā€™s a specific subset of people Iā€™ve seen around and interacted with or have followed for a bit. Like I havenā€™t really followed anyone new for a while now. but the marvel fandom at largeā€¦.likeā€¦.yikeā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦..the MCU fandomā€¦ā€¦ so much yike there. That specific subset of shippers who still think shipping is a great expression of LGBT allyship, who are the ones goingĀ ā€œwho do people even ship xxx??ā€, or just likeā€¦.hating on people lmao.
Another thing I lowkey hate that isnā€™t necessarily directed at individual ppl is likeā€¦.when non-Stevetony/tony fans are likeĀ ā€œwow why are stevetony/tony fans so hateful/mean, they keep calling Steve a snakeā€ or w.e Likeā€¦.I get it bc theyā€™re part of, e.g. the stucky fandom, and theyā€™ve had the blessing of only coming into contact with nice ppl and never was on the receiving end of attacks or bullshit. But boy howdy, have Stevetony/Tony fans Been Through Some Shit. Thereā€™s a lot of, honestly, hurt there, and part of it is we spent so much time like mild about it and apologetic and we want some turnabout. Itā€™s like that one tumblr post thatā€™s likeĀ ā€œfuck anyone who says forgive themĀ ā€˜for my sakeā€™ Iā€™ve worked hard to hate them,ā€ like for a LONG time, we were likeĀ ā€œyes we love Tony, yes we know heā€™s not perfect, yes we acknowledge his flaws,ā€ like we couldnā€™t just straight-up say we loved him as a character, we had to caveat it, and it was seen as a perfectly normalized part of the experience, to expect someone to come likeĀ ā€œokay but also heā€™s evil because xxxā€ and have to be likeĀ ā€œyeah okay we acknowledge xxxx but xxx.ā€ Honestly I will fight for the right of ppl to their salt and try to contextualize as much as I can when I see stuff like that. bc you may not know but we havenā€™t forgotten :ā€™)
Thereā€™s also a thing where I canā€™t tell if theyā€™re in the stevetony fandom or they justā€¦.make posts, but those like ā€¦.Ā ā€œrelatableā€ shipping posts that I sometimes will see bc mobile will rec it? Like I honestly hate those lmao. I find them cringey and painful to see. (those ones that are likeĀ ā€œpeople think Iā€™m so sweet and innocent but really Iā€™m thinking of my gay ship fuckingā€ or w.e like. maybe at some point I was likeĀ ā€œomg same!ā€ but now Iā€™m likeĀ ā€œplease get this away from my face.ā€ Or those ones where itā€™s like chat format likeĀ ā€œisnā€™t xx sad?ā€Ā ā€œyeah isnā€™t it sad my ship isnā€™t canon?ā€ or whatever like. D: D: that just makes me nnnoOOOOooooOOOOOooo inside. If you search a smattering of tumblr popular ships in tumb search You Will See Them. like, if you search johnlock destiel sterek or something like that. bc these ppl tag them with a million ship tags)
on that vein, really anyone tagging stuff with like character/ship tags that, imo, really....arenā€™t so much abt the ship but about themselves? Like, someone tagged their salt ask answer post with the character tags and I had to see someone say they donā€™t like stevetony and think comics Tony is a dick. Can You Think Before You Goddamn Tag pls and just Not. like ppl who bARELY mention Tony and still tag him in the tags........you realize itā€™s all going in a page right? itā€™s not just for your own blog? (but even then, what use is it to your blog when you mostly sayĀ ā€œyeah Iā€™ll be talking about him a lot!ā€ but donā€™t.....actually say much about him.....in your post.............
There is still a lot of tony hating but honestly Iā€™ve got so many ppl blocked now that I see more ppl referencing the antis in the tags (ugh) than I do actually antis anywhere. which honestly also kind of annoys me bc like. I am going into the Tony tag for content on my fave not content on the antis.Ā 
I am just now realizing the original question saidĀ ā€œone thingā€ and I went on about Many Things, so I am cutting myself off now lmao whoops
22.Popular character you hate?
I think honestly the closest is probably Coulson lmao. Like. I just. Donā€™t see the appeal in him as a character at all. And recently I was watching a bunch of vid compilations for Iron Man and EVERY TIME there was likeĀ ā€œand thereā€™s someone else you pissed off. his name is philā€ iā€m like ā€œ:/ :/ but did that part REALLY have to be there??ā€ like sure I get it itā€™s their vid compilation. But just. What Is The Appeal.
And honestlyā€¦ā€¦Iā€™m kind of :/ about MCU Clint, too? Like, Fractionā€™s Hawkeye is awesome, but somehow that doesnā€™t really register as Clint to me. AAā€™s Clint is fine, but for some reason my mind tends to default to MCU Clint unless thereā€™s further elaboration, and I just :/ :/ >:( re: him.
I also hate Howard but idk if heā€™sĀ ā€œpopularā€ lol. I seriously hope not 8)
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